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Conquer Diabetes Like Robby Barbaro (with Dr. Graham) : Plus Robby Discusses His Retreat Experiences

Published: Thu, 23 Jul 2015

Dr. Graham & Robby Barbara discuss Robby's experience as a Type 1 Diabetic on the 80/10/10 Diet in this video.

If you have Diabetes or know someone with Diabetes, please consider attending this retreat. You will learn to truly conquer Diabetes, rather than have it control you and ultimately destroy your health. Both Type 2 and Type 1 Diabetics as well as "pre-diabetics" will have their lives truly transformed at this 6 day, fully immersive and supportive event.

Join Dr. Graham, Robby Barbaro, Dr. Cyrus Khambatta, Ph.D. & the FoodnSport Team at Conquering Diabetes Week September 11th - 18th, 2015 in Washington State, USA.

Robby also talks about learning how to make AMAZING raw vegan food at the Culinary Skills Week retreat which runs the week after Conquering Diabetes - get both retreats for a special price. Call 1 (877) 811 4JOY (4569) for more information. Transcript included below.


Robby Barbaro: Yes, so I'm a type I diabetic, my pancreas doesn't produce insulin. I like the word you used in your name of the retreat, "Conquering Diabetes." I think still, as a type I, this lifestyle, I believe to a certain extent, I have conquered it.

It doesn't control me. I'm in control of it, and I know exactly what's going on. Everything is predictable. Even as a type I, diabetes does not have to predominate or dominate our lives.
Dr. Graham: When you first came and were introduced to the idea of 80/10/10 and how to make it work for you as a type I, we predicted, or I predicted to you, that you were going to see improvements something along the line--but using a phrase that we still use today ... this one hasn't changed at all ... that we call the "grams of carbohydrate to units of insulin ratio."
Robby Barbaro: Right
Dr. Graham: And that that ratio would change dramatically. Not so much--maybe that you might end up using just as much insulin as before, but eating four times as much carbohydrates. It's a little hard to do the measurement. There's different ways to do the math, but the prediction was that you would see about a 75% reduction in insulin in terms of grams of carbohydrates to units of insulin. How did it actually end up working out for you?

Robby Barbaro: Yeah, like you said, it's hard to do the math, hard to figure it out, but the bottom line is today, what I'm eating--I show what I ate videos and whatnot on Youtube, but I'm eating like 700, 800 grams of carbohydrates a day, and taking no more than a total of roughly ... a little bit like 40, 43-ish of insulin a day. When you do the insulin to carb ratio, it changes from breakfast, lunch, and dinner. It varies, but it's reduced. It's really, really good.

Compared to what I was coming from, I was coming from a high fat approach where I was eating, taking still similar amounts of insulin, and eating basically no carbohydrates. That ratio was really terrible. I can't say the exact numbers right now, but I've read-
Dr. Graham: When did you first become aware of the fact that diabetes was going to be a factor in your life? How old were you?

Robby Barbaro: I was 12, turning 13.
Dr. Graham: How hold are you now?

Robby Barbaro: 27
Dr. Graham: So, you've had 15 years, and at least half of those have been with 80/10/10.

Robby Barbaro: That's right.
Dr. Graham: The obvious question is, since 80/10/10 requires a certain level of awareness, a certain level of effort, a certain level of preparation, planning, things of this sort, it socially can be challenging for some people. Others find it to be a social advantage, but socially, some people look at it as a challenge. The obvious question becomes, is it worth it in your mind, which to me is a stupid question because obviously it's worth it or you wouldn't still be doing it?
Robby Barbaro: Yeah.
Dr. Graham: Instead, I'll say why is it worth it to you to keep doing it?

Robby Barbaro: Yeah, I mean, it's hard to like ... you just want ... I love these events because you get to experience ... It's hard to put it into words. The taste and the flavor--to sit down and enjoy every single meal as much as I do right now.

Whereas in the past, people were telling diabetics don't eat carbohydrates. You have to eat this.You have to eat that. It was of this researcher mindset, and you just don't really enjoy food that much. You're trying to find weird ways to enjoy your food, whereas with this diet it's so simple and it's so easy. It just tastes incredible.
You can explain it a lot better than me, but the whole science behind eating less ... all the carbohydrates your body needs. Your brain functions better. Everything physically functions better. You're just a happier person. You're more productive at work. It's just, I don't know. Like you said. It's almost a silly question, but it's 100% worth it.

It's not that hard. Once you get into the systems and figure it out, it just becomes a part of life. As a type I diabetic, you just got to do it no matter what, so why not just do it with the best foods?
Dr. Graham: Why not do it with the best foods? I'm going to have a hard time explaining why not do it with the best foods, the most delicious foods.

I had a relative who was a diabetic when I was a kid, and he just wasn't allowed to eat sweets. I think of him every now and then and go, "how sad," when I'm eating sweet and juicy at meal after meal after meal. I guess maybe when your food options get taken away from you, that's when you first start to really appreciate how much you enjoy being able to eat what you want to eat.

Do you find there's food, Robby, now that you want to eat that you just know you can't?

Robby Barbaro: No. Honestly. I crave epic mangoes and peaches and stone fruit, and all that stuff. I'm not missing out on anything. Meals like super sweet and juicy and delicious, and on this diet, you can also have savory meals once you learn how to do it. I was at your culinary week one time, and the amount of fun, amazing things you can do with just fruits and vegetables is incredible. It really is.
Dr. Graham: Of course, as I'm showing these photos, we got to get to the question of fitness. How has doing 80/10/10 as a diabetic, how has that affected your fitness? Has it been a problem?

Robby Barbaro: It certainly gives you the energy to get out there and do stuff, so it's been nothing but a good thing for my fitness. I must say, activity and fitness, it's very important. It's got to be fun, but I mean, honestly, just doing the diet properly, and a little bit of activity, that in and of itself is enough to master the diabetes. The rest is just fun.
Dr. Graham: Do you feel like you have to be neurotic about the whole thing and really be totally like you can't think about anything else except trying to overcome your diabetes?

Robby Barbaro: Absolutely not. It's kind of like in the back of my mind. The only times I think about it now these days is to try and show people things. Other than that, I just don't really think about it. You just do it.
Dr. Graham: Yes, that's all raw. [referring to the photo of burgers, corn on the cob]

Give me an idea: if you were to say, typically nowadays, how high your blood sugar gets when it's just like: "Whoo. It really got high," and how low it gets when you go, "Oh my goodness, I didn't mean for it to get that low." What would you say are your biggest swings these days?

Robby Barbaro: Yeah, as a type I diabetic, it's just part of the game. Sometimes you make mistakes. I'm not going to say that because I'm doing this diet all of a sudden I completely avoid those situations because I don't, so I could see a blood sugar in the 300s or something, but the trick is that I'll know. I can say ... I know exactly why.

In the past, when you're doing a diet, you don't really understand some of the principles around the diet anyway, and don't even understand the connection between fat and all that stuff. The diabetes community will say, "Oh, you got a high blood sugar and it's just because there's so many factors, and you can't figure out. You don't really know."

In this case, every time it's off, I'll know. I'll know exactly where I made the mistake. Yeah, I'll see some high blood sugars, but it's totally in my control. I'm totally got it dialed in as long as I know the carbs. I know the insulin to carb ratio. It's very, very rare that I would let it get above 150, 160 or so, which I think is actually normal for most people.

You eat, your blood sugar's going to go up. It's going to come down. That's fine.
Dr. Graham: Sure.

Robby Barbaro: You get low blood sugars on this program as well. Then again, you're completely in control. You can dial it in a little bit. Some people, Dr. McDougall's son was a big fan of actually having people run their blood sugar a little bit higher, but again, you're totally in control with it, so you get decide. When you're having a low-fat diet, you truly, truly aren't in control of your blood sugar. So I think I've said enough.
Dr. Graham: It might be hard to remember, but can you go back to pre-80/10/10 and compare the numbers you see now? Would you say overall you're more stable than you were back then?

Robby Barbaro: I'd definitely say more stable. Yep, no doubt. It's hard to go ... It's not like I have graphs or something to show that, but intuitively, yes. I really, truly feel in complete control, and I'm eating all these carbs, and I'm eating the foods I love. It's a good feeling.
Dr. Graham: Yeah. It's going to be a real treat to spend time with you for this upcoming week. I'm looking forward to it very much. You're good with people, Robby, and I'm glad we've got you in the role that you are, and I look forward to hearing your insights. I know you've learned a few things about how to really stabilize on 80/10/10, well as a diabetic, to keep yourself as close to in-line with the blood sugar range that you want to be. That comes with some experience. You have to make a few mistakes. You have to make a few errors, and then you learn the tricks. To be willing to share that with people, I just think it's really huge, Robby. I appreciate that to no end.

Robby Barbaro: Well, thank you. It's going to be really fun, and exactly like you said. It is trial and error. Everybody's a little bit different. Like you always say, "some people will react a little bit different to certain foods," but it's okay. You just figure it out, and it's all good. It's fun. The whole process is fun.
Dr. Graham: What is "Conquering Diabetes?"
Conquering diabetes is a retreat we're going to run in Sedro-Woolley, Washington for a week in September. We're orienting the entire thing to the 80/10/10 lifestyle with gearing the food, the fitness, and the lectures. Of course all the social time as well to help people get into a situation.

If you know someone with diabetes. If you're care-taking someone with diabetes. If you're the person with diabetes, you want to get them into a healthier situation, or you want to get to a point where diabetes becomes part of your past. Everything about this entire conquering diabetes week is going to be focused on helping you master and control what's going on from when to eat which foods, from when to do what type of exercises, how and when to take insulin in order to get the best effects, to how much of a role sleep and exercise and even your thought process make in affecting your blood sugar levels.

Additional Resources



Conquering Diabetes

Keep It Simple & Heal

Self-Study Materials:

The Sweet Solution
to Diabetes
The 80/10/10 Family
80/10/10 Bootcamp
How To Live 80/10/10